Judging from the number of people that follow false teachers, it doesn’t seem likely that enough do #ProveAllThings from our #BibleStudy.
2 A fool does not delight in understanding,
but only wants to show off his opinions.
The website move once again showed me the folly of technology, or at least the people who create technology. There are always 20 different ways to do anything, and, BTW, 19 of them are obsolete even if they appear at the top of search results. Most of the guides will contradict one another, and far too often you go way down a rabbit hole only to discover that the instructions were meant for some other platform or version of software entirely. Don’t even get me started about instructions that are incomplete or even downright wrong! Many times, in technology the proof is in the doing.
The Internet is full of answers, but they are often conflicting, incomplete or wrong. Sometimes, you simply have to try it out to see if it works, which is type of proof by doing and checking the results. Sometimes, too, the answers you get depend upon the questions you ask, and knowing the right questions can make your life a lot easier.
In mathematics as well, the proof is often by doing, although the answers are often more cut and dried. You may have had to do mathematical proofs in high school, where you took a theorem and either proved it or disproved it. Of course, you can also study how others proved or disproved a theorem as well to learn something new.
Still, advancements in math and science generally come by asking questions. As many scientific studies have shown, however, asking the wrong question can lead to questionable answers. It is important to ask questions, but it is more important to ask the right questions.
Now, this isn’t an article on apologetics. So, if you are reading this then I’ll assume you have at least proved something, but mainly that God exists, that He is true and that the Bible is His word. Yet, if that is the end of your questioning, then you’ll still fall well short. Most people reading this will realize that the practices of mainstream Christianity fall well short of what the Bible actually says. Therefore, it is appropriate to keep on asking questions.
After we are baptized, is there a time to quit asking questions?
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
~ 1Th 5:21
Who is Paul addressing here? Is he only addressing the unbaptized? Would that even be realistic?
But of the times and the seasons, brethren …
~ v 1
But ye, brethren …
~ v 4
Ye are all the children of light …
~ v 5
And so on. This sounds like he is addressing baptized members.
So, let’s play a game of “Where Is That Written?” I often hear various things that make no sense, so it is time that it has been pointed out exactly where that thing is written — no hand waving, no smoke and mirrors, no talking around — simply point out where it is written exactly the way it is being portrayed.
Place of Safety
This is a common phrase among those who practice save your own behind Christianity. Where is this phrase in the Bible? It does not exist! Notice that Revelation 12 says “her place”, which may or may not be a place of safety. It might be and probably will be a place of learning. However, fear mongers like to gain a following by scaring them into following them. Ironically, by following such people proves you are not truly worthy because you are placing traditions of men above God’s doctrines.
No Biblical Month Has More Than Thirty Days
Ironically, the claim that the Bible contains a calendar and that is the only source we must use falls apart on its own accord when they start contradicting that very notion. The Bible says “new moon”, but it never defines it. However, if it must mean a visible crescent and if it must be observed, then if the twenty-ninth day is cloudy, they will postpone the beginning of the month to the following day. However, what if it is still cloudy on the thirtieth day? If the moon must be observed, then where does the Bible allow someone — anyone — to declare it a new month in spite of not observing it? Where does the Bible say how many days is in a month?
Iran Is the King of the South
Prove it. Iran lies east of Jerusalem, and Tehran is actually north somewhat of Jerusalem. Iran is one of the remnants of the Persian Empire. The Medo-Persian Empire was the continuation of the statue of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar dreamt of. IOW, it was the precursor to the King of the North, not the South!
UCG Says Extremist Islam is the King of the South
I have asked for proof of this before, and the evidence is still wanting. Please produce one booklet or article where this is stated.
The fact is that no one I know of in the COG community teaches or has taught this.
So, prove it.
The End Time Sacrifices That Will Be Stopped Are Not Physical
IOW, “Don’t believe your Bibles, but believe me instead.” This is just the opposite approach of what HWA always taught to approach the Bible. Prophecy often involves a lot of symbolism, but that symbolism is explained elsewhere (or at least we are told it is withheld). If it is not expressed as a symbol, then it is literal. Always.
Prophecy is in the Bible so that people going through hard times can have hope. Prophecy is one of the proofs that the Bible and God are true. We cannot prove what we cannot see, and by spiritualizing prophecy away, we are basically calling God’s integrity into question.
After the Great Disappointment, EG White decided to spiritualize away prophecy by claiming that the calculations were not wrong, but that what they were interpreting them as was wrong. She claimed that Christ entered the sanctuary to cleanse it on that day. This so-called prophetess went on to make several other prophetic claims that never came true.
It seems we do not learn from history.
The Bible Prohibits Cooking on the Sabbath
Verse, please. I assume you are reading the same Bible, BTW, which tells the priests to kill animals, drain the blood and roast them with fire on the Sabbath and holy days. If that’s not cooking, then what is? In fact, it was a lot of work, period, which also points out that not all work is condemned on the Sabbath. An exception was made for the work of the Tabernacle/Temple.
So, in that light, where does it say, “Thou shalt not cook…”?
I want to emphasize that the Bible’s center of attention is on Asia. Asians cook their food fresh. They have small refrigerators, and they don’t package very many items to be transported hundreds of miles away. They shop daily so they can cook the freshest meals possible.
That has several implications. One is that the notion that Nehemiah was only condemning weekly grocery shopping is laughable, as that is a very western, very US-centric, sort of argument that has no bearing on peoples of the East. The second is that since cooking was normally done daily, then the prohibition would have been made clearer.
The miracle of the manna showed no such thing either. They were told to cook it the day before because:
- We should do what we can to prepare ahead of the Sabbath. Most of our food is already so processed, however, that this is not normally a big deal.
- It apparently needed to be cooked in order to last more than one day. Furthermore, there is no prohibition against warming it up or even using the prepared manna in other dishes.
- When the people were criticized for sinning in this manner it was because they were gathering on the Sabbath, and nothing is said of them cooking on the Sabbath.
An important parallel is the man gathering wood on the Sabbath. His crime was breaking the Sabbath by chopping up and gathering wood, not by starting a fire.
I’m curious as to why people think God is so harsh and stern as to condemn people for not following something that is vague and not spelled out. It is amazing how much people will make God out to be as much of a micromanaging insecure being as they read into the text.
Great Falling Away
There is no such phrase in the Bible. It is “falling away”. Period. Everything added is rubbish.
Delusions of grandeur entice certain people to believe that large numbers of people follow them in order for them to have anything to fall away from. The unconverted cannot fall away because they were never “there” to begin with.
You Own No Assets
“A fool and his money are soon parted.” If you are giving your money to a cause, it is incumbent upon you to ensure it is fulfilling the purpose for giving it. God might help protect the foolish from themselves to some degree, but he won’t rewarded them for being foolish either.
Several men in the Bible were rich: Abraham, Job, King David, etc. They were rich because God rewarded them and they were good stewards of the blessings God gave them. Most of Jesus’ parables centered around money. Why? Because He knew it was an indicator, and it was an indicator that even the world understands. He who values God’s blessings will do their best to care for those blessings, but the ungrateful will not.
10 “One who is faithful in a very little is also faithful in much, and one who is dishonest in a very little is also dishonest in much.
And just how “little” is wealth, anyhow, in the scheme of things?
2 Moreover, it is required of stewards that they be found faithful.
Is this only in the spiritual things but not in the physical? If I steal a physical cake, am I not still guilty of stealing? Therefore, if I disregard the physical blessings of the Creator, am I not showing my ingratitude?
8 But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
Obviously, Paul is talking about the physical needs of a man’s relatives here. By not providing for their physical needs, which normally involves money along the way, that man is worse than an infidel!
By the way, not only should we take care of our families now, but we should leave enough behind to take care of generations when possible.
22 A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children’s children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just.
~ Pr 13:22
By demanding they hand over all their money for their personal idols, Pack and Flurry are causing their members to sin against God and their families!
I could have written down even more examples, but I think you get the point. We don’t turn off our logic and reasoning at baptism. Jesus said we are to love God with all of our mind as well as our physical and emotional selves. The hat hooks at the church entrance are not for hanging up our brains.
To stop questioning and being curious about God’s word is the same as complacency. And that is a dangerous game indeed!
This is a very different thing than finding things to argue about or find fault over. That too is a dangerous game. The differences are in the motivation and attitude.