Um, wow! I had to drop everything when I stumbled across this. Darris McNeely recorded a video about recent events in UCG. The video and the transcript are at “Questions and Answers from the Council of Elders – Darris McNeely”. It is an obvious attempt to make the COE look like the good guys in all of this, but to me it is proof that there is no desire to reconcile, and it portrays the attitude I’ve decried all along.
This crisis did not have to happen. It happened because a number of former ministers made a choice not to accept the governing principles that the vast majority agreed to some 15 years ago. Some say they accept our governance but still chose to break away. And now we are all dealing with the aftermath and planning for the future.
All members of the United Church of God will have Sabbath services to attend and worship God. We have many faithful elders who are stepping into the breach and supporting the Church. To those who have resigned, we say: "It doesn’t have to be this way. You know the way back. The door is open."
Translation: “We are still right, and you are still wrong. When you admit you are wrong, you may come back with your tail between your legs.” Real reconciling stuff, there.
However, ripping scabs off of wounds is not enough, apparently. McNeely further on pours on the whole salt container:
As the Word of God faithfully records in the 32nd chapter of Numbers , "be sure your sin will find you out" [verse 23]. And that has happened, while we were trying to work towards a solution.
Yeah, that will get them coming back in droves, Darris. Way to be tactful! No burning of bridges there!
How can anyone read that and not see for a certainty that reconciliation is not their priority?
This documentation that we on the Council have received shows that former ministers and administrators were secretly planning organizational meetings, structure and timing of their departure even as they spoke and wrote to Mr. Luker and others that they had never been a part of any such planning. It’s all very, very sad, as this documentation demonstrates the unethical conduct of former administrators and ministers in preparing to break away from the United Church of God.
Of course, previously he said, “Because of Human Resource and other issues, we don’t plan to directly publish the e-mails and other documentation that the Council received from a variety of sources.” Pretty convenient, actually.
This reminds me of the twisted timeline of the events in Leon Walker’s firing and subsequently sending down Mario Seiglie to the region. It seems pretty obvious to me that when meeting after meeting ends with an impasse, then sooner or later someone is going to make plans to do something else.
Oh, and I get tired of hearing how much “planning” it all takes. Folks, I started a business and had it up and running in two weeks. I got a web address in about 30 minutes. I’m the wrong person to try to pull the wool over my eyes on that one!
None of our governing documents and nobody on the Council requires any minister to swear allegiance to any man.
Perhaps not, but Dennis Luker did stand up on more than one occasion and say that there must be loyalty to an organization of men. So, while the above might not be a lie, it gives a false impression and borders on bearing false witness.
What we cannot tolerate as an organization and as a group of people claiming to uphold the laws of God is for people to stand up in services and create fear and uncertainty.
Then, the COE and the President should resign immediately. Lack of information causes fear and uncertainty, and the present leadership has done everything in its power to control information. Threatening people with a “submit or else” ultimatum causes a great deal of fear and uncertainty, especially when members are sitting there wondering what in the world is going on.
No one is forced out.
Right. I’m sure Joel Meeker would agree.
The key issue here is that open apologies have been extended by those remaining here within the United Church of God. You should know, or at least be reminded, of the fact that both Roy Holladay, then the interim president of the Church and the chairman of the Council, made an open apology to all at last May’s General Conference of Elders. Victor Kubik, then the acting operational manager for Ministerial Services, made an open apology at the same GCE meeting. Several Council members have previously expressed the same.
I’ve honestly only heard one, and that was from Dennis Luker. The problem, of course, is that as soon as the apology was rendered, certain supporters of the COE and administration took it upon themselves to defend the very thing he apologized for. As for the rest, where are their apologies to the members? Apologizing to the GCE isn’t the same thing.
Lest any be in doubt, speaking on behalf of the Council of Elders today, let me offer an apology to any and all who were and remain offended.
Yes, like that! If that had been broadcast months ago, perhaps people would not still be leaving! Why wait until it is too late?
Given the current situation, some have asked whether it is permissible to attend services of other organizations. We on the Council certainly don’t endorse any breakaway organization, particularly ones led by former ministers who make false claims and who have tried to break us apart. As I noted earlier, a free Webcast of services from the Home Office here is now available to all on the Sabbath. Please take advantage of this offer if you don’t have a regular service in your area.
Translation: “We might lose control over you if you listen to ‘them’.”
Some former ministers and administrators are now calling for younger people associated with the United Church of God to leave and join their group. There is absolutely no reason for any young person to consider this. As this turmoil passes, we have every reason to believe that God will give growth to the Church.
That’s quite a serious charge, in my book, and I want proof. Forget about human resource mumbo-jumbo, if you cannot back that up, don’t make such a charge. I cannot speak for other areas, but there is nothing like that going on here. Not only have I seen no proof that anyone was called, asked or persuaded to leave UCG, but locally we were told to not invite anyone unless we knew they wanted to leave.
All this message does is to harden people’s positions if they already decided to leave and make the current UCG leadership look righteous to those who choose to believe them. There is nothing to make anyone want to reconcile with someone who would put out such a message. However, that seems to be the way the whole ordeal has gone.
Now I have to pray. I’m angry, and the sun is going down.